Friday, July 2, 2010

Odd thoughts.

Say a man is a homosexual like me. Then, because of religious conviction, he or she becomes a gay basher, like Ssempa and Bahati et al. Now, supposing I find out that this guy is a homosexual, and, me being me, in my outrage at that person’s gay bashing, I ‘out’ that person…

The scenario is not uncommon. The most rabid gay bashers turn out to be gay.- having gay sex on the side, or ‘struggling with same-sex-attraction’ (the politically correct term), etc, etc. I am talking about the Ted Haggard and Larry Craigs of this world. And many others. So, should we, or should we not ‘out’ them?

A question of philosophy, for many. Here are two articles on the same case, a gay bashing Christian pastor who was found to be attending a ‘gay therapy’ self help group and here too.  What may be most interesting are the comments, as different people weigh in. Should it, or shouldn’t it be done?

In the hypothetical case of Ssempa or Bahati being found in a compromising position, I am afraid the world I live in is a harsh reality. I would have no compaction exposing his hypocrisy, in the same way that I have exposed the lies that Ssempa tells in the name of his god.

Scandinavian countries, in truth, have a huge history of tolerance. Its just ‘not cool’ to be intolerant. And, so what if one is gay, or another loves cross-dressing? So what if the Prime Minister is openly gay and marries her long term partner?

Beyond cool, that is MY reaction. But, many don’t think so. But, the Prime Minister of Iceland did take the step and tied the note. Yes, she did. And, know who is incensed at that little detail and cant help commenting? Why, someone in Uganda. Here is the quote.
Ugandans were shocked to hear of Sigurdardottir's marriage to her partner with whom she had been in a registered relationship since 2002. The partnership was converted into a marriage on Sunday, when a new law legalizing same-sex marriage went into force.
"Their society is finished, they have no morals," said Uganda's ruling-party spokeswoman, Mary Karooro Okurutu, described the marriage as "disgusting."
The East African nation frowns on homosexuality and is considering proposed legislation that would impose the death penalty for some gays. The bill has sparked protests in London, New York and Washington.
My reaction is bemusement at the 'Ugandan' reaction. I have gotten way past the thinking that the world thinks like I do, or that it MUST think like I do. I don’t have to force my world into squares or circles. That leads to madness. And, I don’t have to condemn another person because I believe in my morality above their morality.
Sigh..., Ugandans will always be asked for their point of view with regards to homosexuality. Wonder why the reporters didn’t ask dear Pastor Ssempa? I am just curious about the wordage that he would have used, the sentiments that he would express is beyond doubt condemnation.

And, check out some of the contrasting points of view relative to gay issues and gay nuptials.
In Europe, the situation varies.
Several top-level politicians are openly gay, including Sweden's Environment Minister Andreas Carlgren and Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe, considered a possible contender for the 2012 presidential elections.
But a gay head of government would be impossible in strong Catholic nations.
"We will never see a gay prime minister in Italy. The power of the Catholic Church is too strong," said Giuseppina Massallo, 60, from Sicily who lives in Rome. "We have institutions that make us believe that ... being homosexual is simply not the right thing to do."
The 32-year-old Federley occasionally swaps his parliamentary suit and tie for heavy makeup and revealing dresses as drag queen Ursula. Federley has been openly gay for nine years and his sexual identity has never been an issue in politics.
His cross-dressing only hit the headlines when critics in February questioned which Federley accepted an alleged media junket to the Canary Islands: Fredrik the lawmaker or Ursula the drag queen?
Gays in politics would be inconceivable in Africa, where 37 countries have anti-gay laws and where Zimbabwe's leader Robert Mugabe has described same-sex partners as "lower than dogs and pigs."
Know what my gay agenda is?

No. It is not defined by those who think me less than human.

It is simply to be taken as human as my straight neighbour. Equality. That will suffice.



Anonymous said...

You'll probably never see a woman PM in Italy either, for the same reason. However, they have have had an outrageous female stripper as a politician. Funny country really.

Anonymous said...

OK, lets look at what the infallible word of God Says:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." (NIV)

Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." (NIV)

Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

Whether or not you believe homosexuality is a sin based upon your interpretations of the scripture, there are some issues surrounding the treatment of homosexuals of which Christians need to be aware. While the Old Testament focused on rules and consequences, the New Testament offers a message of love. There are some Christian homosexuals and there are those that desire deliverance from homosexuality. Rather than trying to be God and pass judgement on those individuals, a better option may be to offer prayers to those struggling with their homosexuality.

Anonymous said...

An even better option is simply to let them live their own lives in peace.

Anonymous said...

Well, anonymous above misses out the verses etc that are often seen as more accepting of gay people. Personally I like the verses in John about Jesus snuggling up to The Disciple That He Loved, at the Last Supper, that he later (from the cross) asks his mother to treat as her son. Or the way Jesus has no problem curing the slave friend of the centurion and makes no judgement about their relationship. Or the unexplained mention of the naked youth running from the Garden Of Gethsemane when Jesus is arrested for blasphemy.

Fact is, there is no condemnation whatsoever in the 4 Gospels themselves of homosexuality. If it was such an issue you'd think Jesus himself might have mentioned it. It was certainly not uncommon in the 1st century AD.

Perhaps an even better option of how to treat gay people would be simply to leave them alone, and allow them to live and love each other in peace.

Anonymous said...

Given the wholehearted endorsement of slavery in both the Old and New Testaments, I am wondering if a fundamentalist government of Uganda will reintroduce this so as to be true to the Word of God?

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