Friday, March 6, 2009

Day Two. Kampala Pentecostal Church

Hey, the Kampala Pentecostal Church Auditorium was full yesterday. Also today…! And Pastor Martin Ssempa is the main speaker now, this evening. Guess the topic.

You know, playing fly on the wall, I realize a major difference between the American Right speakers, and the likes of the flames of Ssempa and Langa. The former want to kill us with kindness. The latter are very convinced and they want to kill us with, something much less than kindness, more like an unreasonable hatred.

For Ssempa and Langa, conspirator theories are the thing to pass on. Gay people are out to destroy the church. We gays are out to destroy young people. We whine about the hatred of homophobia. Ssempa doesn’t hate us. He loves us [enough to send us to prison for life]. He wants to change us.

I have commented before that Ssempa is not very clever. Fact. He does lack a few logical brain cells. But well, I kind of profit from that. He has this loving hate of us gay people which gives me a lot of pleasure pointing it out. And he is a persuasive, charismatic speaker, obsessed with his fight against homosexuality- of all ills of society.

Ssempa used to be a reader of this blog of mine. Maybe that is where he got the feeling that we gay people are out to destroy the Church, as he puts it. Leornado, I know you will be flabbergasted. And so will a few others. I had actually never heard it articulated that gay people were out to destroy the church. When I was waxing poetic about the hatred of the church, I was bleeding off my disappointment at the hate that the church shows!

Some highlights from Ssempa’s preaching.

  • Gay People are out to destroy the Church.
  • Gay People are out to destroy young people.
  • There is a War. An Anti-Gay War ongoing. The church is fighting gays.
  • The spirit of Homosexuality… Sorry, I will not go there. Suffice to say that that same spirit is abroad and molesting Ugandans. Exorcism anyone?
  • Leadership in Uganda is poor. That is why there are gays in Uganda. [That is why we gay Ugandans do not have a pulpit like Ssempa’s to preach our love while he preaches hatred.

And, an aside to the Homosexual International- We like being gay, because when we go to other countries, we seek out people of the same orientation, behaviour.

Don’t worry dear readers. If you are as confused as I am, then you have got the gist of what Ssempa is saying. And I think his visitors are squirming in their seats. We preach hate from the pulpits in Uganda. It is okay to preach hate and ignorance and disgust. Not knowledge!!!! Even if it is pseudo knowledge.

I am a fly on the wall. I am a fly on the wall. And there is so much that is interesting, and horrifying, and plain wrong here.

But then, me as a fly, what can I do but report what I see?

Apparently, the Americans met members of Parliament yesterday. Would want to ask whether they advocated for a tougher anti-gay law. What would that be, since the one we have advocates for life in prison. Could possibly be the death penalty, for loving my lover?



Anonymous said...

Dear Gay Uganda,
You are such a liar! I was in the meeting today at KPC and your blog is 100 percent lying as to what took place. First you lie that Dr. Ssempa was the main speaker; Sorry it was Dr. Scott Lively. Did you confuse Dr. Scott for is white the other is black!
Secondly it was Scott who talked about the war between the church and the gay movement in the whole world. He told us how gays use the word "hate" without defining it, and how they use "homophobia" without defining it. Can you kindly help us by what you mean by hate.
Dr. Ssempa told stories of 12 year old boys who are raped in boarding schools who are reported to him as the most important area people need to address. He shared a story from Butiki college of systematic sexual rape of the new senior ones as reported to him. Did you hear that one?
Also he shared about how there are three social institutions each with its responsibility. The family to train and discipline. The church to preach grace, redemption and change. And finally the State which has the task of keeping law and order..including the stopping of rapists.
By the way he told us about your blog and how you had called yourself a fly on a wall. You were told that you are not a fly but a real man who God can change. Dr. Ssempa told us that he has had many homosexuals who had changed and invited you to change.
I am actually surprised, well not really surprised that you can lie so badly. Do you think this is the reprobate mind Dr. Scott Lively was talking about?


gayuganda said...


Emma, you have caught me.

No, I actually didnt confuse them.

Thanks a lot for your corrections. They are actually fantastic. You know, I am not a reporter, and sometimes I hear things which were not said.

So, we are at war, and Dr. Scott said so? Sorry, I kind of though that was Ssempa's language. Glad you corrected me. Must have been confused.

Scott was the main speaker? Great. See, I am Ssempa obsessed. Just couldnt see the white man, if you know what I mean!

Homophobia without defining it? I will take out my copy of the Oxford Dictionary of English. Isnt it supposed to be the bible of English?

See, about the rapes. Ssempa usually accuses us of rape. I am a homosexual. I have never, ever been raped. But I am still a homosexual.

Errr, and I have never raped, also...

And I have lived now 8 good years with my lover. No, I make love with him, no rape my dear. Any reason why we should go to prison there?

Why do you think homosexuals are rapists? I will have to take out the Oxford dictionary and help you define both words. In totality. Maybe draw a line to show the difference tween the two.

And, you know what, are all raped women heterosexuals because they have been raped? Forgive my crudeness.

Hey, I am glad that Ssempa is still reading my blog. So, you came here to send me a rebuttal of my lies???

I am pretty honoured!

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Me, the fly on the wall, I am honoured.

Now, I am getting swollen headed.

Why dont I believe in the cures? That is an interesting topic of debate. Maybe I should, since he has so many. What do you say, should I believe??????

Emma, thanks for your thoughts. Any more mistakes I made in my post? Would realy be glad to make them right!!!!!

Be well

and, if I say god bless, hope you dont take it wrongly.


Leonard said...

Good grief! Of course LGBT people will destroy the selfrighteousness and under-the-radar thieving/deceiving, coveting, sexual abusing, grandstanding, emotional/spiritual tangenting that has, so far, survived it´s hypocritical self in the name of Christ at CHURCH!

Imagine when some of the puffed up old religious goats/gloats will be faced with the looking into of their OWN HATE GENERATING SOULS? Imagine what a scary day it will be for the blindminded religious bigots when they discover they are, in fact and action, the worst and most pridefilled sinners and abusers of them all!

Church/other will take on whole new meaning when Christians/others actually focus on their own individual sin, their own cowardliness, their own shiftiness and tarnished personal greed and all-around character...will their own lack of faith in a God who needs no defense save them from their dangerous selves? (particularly preached in Gods name as the fools persecute others, jail, prosecute, beat and demonize others to glorify their OWN name...true, Bishop Orombi, comes to mind, but I´m a Anglican who see´s first hand his dirty little fundraiser abroad-hate campaign).

Such stupid comments about the raping of young boys...accross the board slander is spouting forth as the heterosexuals romp freely around humanity raping, killing and tormenting (Sudan comes to mind)...advertising BOLDLY in NEWSPAPERS for more and more HETEROSEXUAL SEX makes me think that zealot religious pontificators don´t have anything REAL and HELPFUL to contribute to humanity and really ought to seek spiritual and emotional HELP instead...sure, the FAKERY/QUACKERY within Church walls will fall down and be rebuilt with TRUTH instead of faithless howling/prowling, prancing, blaming, shaming and the blowhards will eventually stop the preaching of ignorant, yet deadly, FRIGHT!

(as if Africa didn´t have enough horrible REAL LIFE situations to deal with than to manufacture lies about LGBT human beings...that´s irresponsible and harmful to everyones HEALTH)!

Anonymous said...

emma mr lively wants to force gays into therapy - how do you like that?

Leonard said...

emma, ought go first to the shrink, set an example for all that is good, just and right by volunteering to be ¨normalized¨ (way off center)...and if that doesn´t work, perhaps she and her slanderous excluding pals can go live on a island somewhere (with their legs crossed) and howl puritan accusations at one another until their voiceboxes conk-out!

Mildly amused said...

Emma caught you out big time! What I see here is the marked difference between the way Emma handled her comment and the way the rest of you gays handled yours. It is easy to see who is 'off centre'.

Anonymous said...

If you want clarification on what is the Bible and read God's own words on how he feels about homosexuality. God actually uses the most extreme words of hate available in the translated English being He ABHORS homosexuality and ' Cast anyone who practises such acts away from him'. If you dont believe your Bible. Then take up your argument with God himself instead of Christians who are trying to stand on the word of God!

Anonymous said...

OK, lets look at what the infallible word of God Says:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." (NIV)

Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." (NIV)

Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

Whether or not you believe homosexuality is a sin based upon your interpretations of the scripture, there are some issues surrounding the treatment of homosexuals of which Christians need to be aware. While the Old Testament focused on rules and consequences, the New Testament offers a message of love. There are some Christian homosexuals and there are those that desire deliverance from homosexuality. Rather than trying to be God and pass judgement on those individuals, a better option may be to offer prayers to those struggling with their homosexuality.

Anonymous said...

When will people realise that like all religions, Christianity and Islam were products of certain cultures and these cultures are masculinist, heterosexual and zenophobic!

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